- Joined
- May 2, 2015
- Messages
- 642
- Reaction score
- 578
I believe this week is the week!
My permit is still up
Now I can't help but feel I failed
My permit is still up
Now I can't help but feel I failed
This is perfect advice.AMG - passed with nothing too close to borderline, ICE was a lot higher than CIS. I spent 2 months freaking out and losing years of my life over this stupid test so hopefully this post can help others who are anxious before/after this thing
My experience:
Took it in LA. Studied half-heartedly for maybe a week or two for a couple hours in the evening and more on the weekend.
I felt that First Aid did not prepare me well. The # of questions they ask is so unrealistic. Also the way they want you to CAGE/counsel etc I think is artificial and actually detracted from my CIS score.
My main tips would be:
1) Make you sure you do a thorough ROS! You should have a standard ROS you ask everyone and then do system specific as it pertains to the case. I did not do this and feel like I missed 2/12 diagnoses because of this
2) A lot of people on these threads say the diagnoses are super obvious. I did not agree. I would say 40% were obvious, 40% you could get if you asked the right questions and 20% I'm still not sure what they were going for. They can be easy to miss if you don't ask ROS and SPECIFIC q because SPs are trained to only respond to specific questions
3) Similar to 2. This isn't like your school's OSCE where the SPs volunteer most of the important info if you ask enough open ended questions. I felt like I needed to know what my main diagnoses were so I could know what to ask
4) Ask EVERY female pt about LMP, ask everyone about diet/exercise etc.
5) You don't have to get all the diagnoses right. I feel like I missed the top diagnosis in 3/12 and in 1 other still don't really know what they were going for. In a couple of others my diagnoses were misordered. Still got high performance on ICE
6) For CIS watch the videos online of performance on the official website, I did this AFTER my test and wish I had done it before. I think I got too caught up in CAGEing, counseling etc and forgot to just do the basic empathy stuff. Don't CAGE people who drink 1 drink per week, etc. First aid goes a little overboard imo with the idea that there is a CIS checklist and you have to do all this stuff. I ended up spending so much time doing that stuff during my first encounter I didn't even have time for closure
7) Closure carries a lot of points for CIS make sure you leave enough time for it. If I had to redo it I would save all the counseling for the end. I think trying to counsel during the data gathering part really messed up my flow and cost me time I could have used to take a better history.
Overall: I made A LOT of mistakes and still got high performance for ICE, so despite the posts on here where people seemingly did everything right and failed I think there is a lot of leeway. I think it is more important to have reasonable, well, supported diagnoses than it is to "get the answer." For many of my cases there were many reasonable diagnostic possibilities suggested by the history and only after leaving the exam did I miss what they were probably going for but it didn't seem to hurt me.
I agree with this too. You can pass without studying for a single day or you can fail after studying for 2 weeks.Congrats to everyone who passed. This was my second attempt and thankfully I passed and no longer have to worry about this dumpster fire of a test. Just wanna address those who are commenting about the lack of effort they put into studying or all of the things they didn’t do during the encounter and still managed to pass...it doesn’t feel great to hear that from someone who failed, especially if they thought they prepared and performed well during the exam. It makes you wonder how badly you must’ve f***ed up to afford a fail on a test that other people are passing with little effort. This test is massively subjective and I’ve realized from this experience that there is absolutely nothing that can reassure you that you passed other than seeing a passing score. Plus, it perpetuates the misconception that this test is an easy pass and you just need to know how to say hello and wash your hands.
I know I’m ranting, but I’m coming from a good place. To those who failed- do not lose hope. This test sucks and these next few weeks/months will be tough but I have all the confidence that you can do it. And most importantly, this test doesn’t say a damn thing about your self worth. It’s just 12 people trying to remember what they thought about your 15-min interaction. Hang in there, feel free to DM me if you ever want to talk <3
I think for a long time I will wake up everyday and ask myself how the heck I passed this test.
Pass!!! Thank god.
Please, limit your posts and questions to only CK exam experience related. It's hard for others to go through so many unrelated posts to finally a post about CK exam.
Thank you very much to all those who share their experience with everyone.
Best of luck!
Mine was August 26 , LAAugust 27, Los Angeles - couldn't help but notice - same day, same place! Haha
i took it july 22....
[/
Hey, I just gave my CS in 2nd attempt. I have the same feeling that I did so many mistakes this time like I could not close/counsel 1 case. Can you please tell me how was your result ?
Great, congratulations.I passed! I was so excited that i forgot to follow up on this thread!
I am glad that you passed. This is my 2nd attempt that is why I am really nervous about my result.I passed! I was so excited that i forgot to follow up on this thread!