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Post-II R (PURCH) - interviewed in August
I’m not surprised now as in I didn’t expect them to roll out A’s on 4/29, but before the cycle I thought I had a very strong chance as an in-state resident whose application eventually ended up receiving success at other “higher ranked” schools.Anyone suprised with their decision?
I believe that I was a very strong applicant. 52X MCAT, high GPA, very strong ECs, LORs, high preview, excellent writing, and good interview skills.
I had an excellent cycle and got a lot of love from a lot of schools.
But, UMass is my state school. At the start of the cycle I told myself that even if I strike out everywhere else, I can count on UMass to have my back. Boy was I wrong.
I am honestly suprised that I didn't get into my state school as a resident of this state who was born here and never left. The same is true for a lot of other strong applicants that got rejected.
I do know several other residents who blatantly had much weaker applications. They all got in. The common denominator for the 4 applicants I know who got it is that their fathers are all physicians. I find that really interesting.
Well I wouldn't be suprised at all.I’m not surprised now as in I didn’t expect them to roll out A’s on 4/29, but before the cycle I thought I had a very strong chance as an in-state resident whose application eventually ended up receiving success at other “higher ranked” schools.
That being said, every school’s selection criteria is different and UMass is known not to value stats a ton (based on what their current admissions Dean said on a podcast), and stats were a big factor that I at least relied on to pull me through. Some schools may also weight the interview heavily, and for me, I thought my interview was extremely meh. I would be extremely surprised if parental occupation at all factored in especially since even the physician parents of admits are probably not affiliated with UMass and I don’t see it bringing the institution a ton of value to use that as a selection criterion.
I was debating on tearing them up, but I do plan on applying here for some residency programs. Be careful not to burn any bridges. The best we can do is warn future applicants. This place is a joke and the people continuing to defend them need to grow a spine.Post ii R, 216 days after my interview. I thought I was a perfect fit for this school and my interviewers told me so as well.
To future applicants reading this, let the examples today serve as a indicator of what you're getting yourself into by applying (and interviewing) here. But also keep in mind that fortunately many of us ended up at institutions that treated us much better throughout this process. If that happens to be UMass for you, then great. If not, it'll work out.
I will say now that I have nothing to lose I am going to submit a complaint to their handling of our applications, because it seems like my experience is not unique by any means
Do you have a better explanation as to why me and a lot of my buddies who are 520+ scorers and excellent all around applicants struck out at this school, while a handful of our peers, who have physician parents, with sub 510 MCATs and near zero ECs had so much luck? They only got into UMass, no other schools, while those of us who were rejected got into to tons of other schools. I struggle to find a reason other than them being the child of a physician. But I'm open to listen to your reasons as to how this could happen. Year after year btw, same thing happened last year with a lot of strong applicants that I personally know.I’m not surprised now as in I didn’t expect them to roll out A’s on 4/29, but before the cycle I thought I had a very strong chance as an in-state resident whose application eventually ended up receiving success at other “higher ranked” schools.
That being said, every school’s selection criteria is different and UMass is known not to value stats a ton (based on what their current admissions Dean said on a podcast), and stats were a big factor that I at least relied on to pull me through. Some schools may also weight the interview heavily, and for me, I thought my interview was extremely meh. I would be extremely surprised if parental occupation at all factored in especially since even the physician parents of admits are probably not affiliated with UMass and I don’t see it bringing the institution a ton of value to use that as a selection criterion.
As someone who was accepted at "higher ranked" medical schools than UMass, I'm really peeved with how they handled their admissions process. I, like many others in this thread, am an IS applicant who was counting on UMass for reduced tuition. It seems like they handed out way, way too many IIs and couldn't sort through them all in a reasonable time. I hope they realize that it feels much more disrespectful to receive an II and have to wait this long rather than not receiving an II at all. I really feel for the applicants who had to wait forever to know whether they were going to medical school or had to undergo a difficult reapplication process. It sucked having to tell people for so long that I didn't know WHERE I was going to medical school, I can't imagine having to tell people I still didn't know IF I was going to medical school.
Highly unprofessional on UMass to make applicants wait this long, especially because of how many IS applicants they were stringing along. I certainly won't be forgetting this experience any time soon.
State schools don't yield protect, as many applicants, like this one, would choose their state school for financial reasons.Maybe they felt that you were overqualified, compared to the pool of applicants who tipically matriculate. They probably got a feeling that "higher ranked" medical schools would grab you and offer you a scholarship or most likely that a mid tier med school would offer you a schoolarship and tempt you to accept their offer of acceptance. Schools are very protective of their yield.
I do agree that they should deliver their rejections as they go instead of waiting until the very last day.
Perhaps correlation vs causation is at play here. Having physician parents working and practicing in MA may facilitate "more interesting" clinical opportunities in the community. The claim that an institution is unfairly admitting the children of physicians is quite serious. If it were true, a lot of data would be needed to support the claim - a handful of people anecdotally isn’t enough. Hey, n=1 but I come from a medical family and I got rejected. Likely, the admissions process is too opaque to make conclusions like "X got in because of Y."Do you have a better explanation as to why me and a lot of my buddies who are 520+ scorers and excellent all around applicants struck out at this school, while a handful of our peers, who have physician parents, with sub 510 MCATs and near zero ECs had so much luck? They only got into UMass, no other schools, while those of us who were rejected got into to tons of other schools. I struggle to find a reason other than them being the child of a physician. But I'm open to listen to your reasons as to how this could happen. Year after year btw, same thing happened last year with a lot of strong applicants that I personally know.
As someone who got into a "higher ranked" school that I would've chosen over UMass and got interviews at many other "higher ranked" schools, I personally don't believe I was yield protected and I know of people who are extremely qualified (multiple A's from top schools, ultra-high stats, etc.) who did get in. I think it comes down to a difference in what UMass is looking for vs other schools and my individual performance on different schools' interview days.Maybe they felt that you were overqualified, compared to the pool of applicants who tipically matriculate. They probably got a feeling that "higher ranked" medical schools would grab you and offer you a scholarship or most likely that a mid tier med school would offer you a schoolarship and tempt you to accept their offer of acceptance. Schools are very protective of their yield.
I do agree that they should deliver their rejections as they go instead of waiting until the very last day.
I’m curious what proportion of those who were rejected today are males.Do you have a better explanation as to why me and a lot of my buddies who are 520+ scorers and excellent all around applicants struck out at this school, while a handful of our peers, who have physician parents, with sub 510 MCATs and near zero ECs had so much luck? They only got into UMass, no other schools, while those of us who were rejected got into to tons of other schools. I struggle to find a reason other than them being the child of a physician. But I'm open to listen to your reasons as to how this could happen. Year after year btw, same thing happened last year with a lot of strong applicants that I personally know.
55 men and 143 ***women***I’m curious what proportion of those who were rejected today are males.
UMass clearly discriminates against males. 55 men and 143 females in the most recent class, and pretty close to that ratio in the few years before that too. That isn’t by chance.
Edit: don’t want to come across as sexist. However I do believe that med school classes shouldn’t be more than 60% of one particular gender.
This is the trend across the board not just at UMass. Not 100% sure but I remember hearing somewhere that women nowadays are generally performing better than men in higher Ed (saying this as a guy)I’m curious what proportion of those who were rejected today are males.
UMass clearly discriminates against males. 55 men and 143 women in the most recent class, and pretty close to that ratio in the few years before that too. That isn’t by chance.
Edit: don’t want to come across as sexist. However I do believe that med school classes shouldn’t be more than 60% of one particular gender.
I think it took about a week to appear in my CYMS toolhas anyone who was waitlisted recently still not have UMass on their CYMS tool
I was waitlisted 3/29 and the CYMS tool added my alternate list on 4/2has anyone who was waitlisted recently still not have UMass on their CYMS tool
Does anyone know when the actual deadline for UMass to narrow to one acceptance is? Like when can WL folks expect to start hearing news? Ik some schools have their CTE deadline as after May 1st which is why I’m asking
Acceptance, Deferral, & Withdrawal Policy
Acceptance, Deferral, & Withdrawal Policywww.umassmed.edu
On their website, they say it's 4/30 (or the next business day if 4/30 is a weekend/holiday, which in this case it's not) to narrow down to one acceptance (i.e., the PTE deadline). To officially CTE, that's July 15.
just wondering -- if we have only 1 A by 4/30 and 1 WL, what happens if we are by chance later offered a second A through that WL. would we just notify schools and pick 1 school to commit to immediately?
AAMC traffic rules dictate that you can only hold down one acceptance after 4/30.
From my understanding...
Let's say you have an A from School A and a WL from School B. On 4/30, you selected PTE for School A. At some point after that, you received an A from School B. If you prefer School B over School A, you can change your PTE selection to School B; however, that will mean that you would need to turn down the A from School A.
Folks here can correct me if I'm wrong. For some reason, this was a doozy concept for me to grasp.
AAMC traffic rules dictate that you can only hold down one acceptance after 4/30.
From my understanding...
Let's say you have an A from School A and a WL from School B. On 4/30, you selected PTE for School A. At some point after that, you received an A from School B. If you prefer School B over School A, you can change your PTE selection to School B; however, that will mean that you would need to turn down the A from School A.
Folks here can correct me if I'm wrong. For some reason, this was a doozy concept for me to grasp.
Between PTE (4/30) and CTE (7/15), you can turn down the A, and you can't after CTE,
same situation and thats how I understand it. Right now i chose PTE for my only A (school A). With this option i can still stay on WL for school B. If you get accepted to School B and thats where you prefer, choose CTE for school B which will automatically withdraw your A from School A (but i think you still need to communicate that w/ school A). But pay attention to school specific ddl which can be different from the CYMS ddljust wondering -- if we have only 1 A by 4/30 and 1 WL, what happens if we are by chance later offered a second A through that WL. would we just notify schools and pick 1 school to commit to immediately?
Based on last year's forum, it looks like initial WL movement began the Wednesday after PTE deadline (May 3rd). If that is any indication, any day beyond this point is fair game. So I wouldn't hold my breath and just let the decisions come. Manifesting for you to hear some good news!Do we know when we'll start hearing back about us WL folks?
same situation and thats how I understand it. Right now i chose PTE for my only A (school A). With this option i can still stay on WL for school B. If you get accepted to School B and thats where you prefer, choose CTE for school B which will automatically withdraw your A from School A (but i think you still need to communicate that w/ school A). But pay attention to school specific ddl which can be different from the CYMS ddl
Does anyone know how hard it is to become an in-state resident in Mass? For example if we started out of state at this school is it possible to eventually become an in-state resident during their 2nd year forward?
Wondering the same for MD + LEADDoes anyone know if there is a separate waitlist for people waitlisted for MD and PURCH?